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Purchased a WC Ball and now it won't feed? |
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| This is a very common experience. We're all told that WC adults are NOT a short cut~ but most of us insist on trying it ourselves~ or we fall in love with that Oh-So-Special WC BP and then discover our new treasure will not eat. |
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purchased twelve WC adult female BPs for $300 on 10/9/03. That comes to only $25
each (and the seller was local so I did not pay any shipping). That's a great deal! Well~ it would be if they fed! |
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were immediately treated with Panacur (25mg/kg) and Flagyl (100mg/kg) on 10-13-03 and
again on 10-21-03. Initial weights on these girls were as follows:
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| Fem # 26 ~ 686 grams | Fem # 29 ~ 1033 grams | Fem # 32 ~ 754 grams | Fem # 35 ~ 786 grams |
| Fem # 27 ~ 979 grams | Fem # 30 ~ 724 grams | Fem # 33 ~ 869 grams | Fem # 36 ~ 875 grams |
| Fem # 28 ~ 858 grams | Fem # 31 ~ 801 grams | Fem # 34 ~ 890 grams | Fem # 37 ~ 1089 grams |
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| Fem # 28 ~ First feed on 2/6/04 (4 months non-feeding)~ continued feeding with no problems | Fem # 30 ~ First feed on 2/11/04 (4 months non-feeding)~ continued feeding with no problems | Fem # 31 ~ First feed on 2/6/04 (4 months non-feeding)~ continued feeding with no problems |
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| Fem # 29 ~ Fed on 3/26//04 (5 months non-feeding)~ Refused to feed again until after substrate change described below | Fem # 32 ~ Fed on 3/3//04 (5 months non-feeding)~ Refused to feed again until after substrate change described below | Fem # 33 ~ Fed on 3/30//04 (5 months non-feeding)~ Refused to feed again until after substrate change described below |
| Fem # 35 ~ Fed on 4/21//04 (6 months non-feeding)~ Refused to feed again until after substrate change described below | Fem # 26 ~ Did not begin feeding until after substrate change described below | Fem # 27 ~ Did not begin feeding until after substrate change described below |
| Fem # 34 ~ Did not begin feeding until after substrate change described below | Fem # 36 ~ Did not begin feeding until after substrate change described below | Fem # 37 ~ I just realized I never updated this! Fem 37 went 15 months before she began then she just started one day and kept eating! She did not lose a significant amount of weight in the entire 15 months! |
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In late April I was reading Ralph Davis Reptiles message boards and happened to see where Ralph Davis suggests to a poster that he should try~ burying the hide and offering a dark/natural colored prey item. I thought this sounded like a good idea~ but I kept my BPs on Newspaper so I could not bury the hide. So~ this is what I did~ | |
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4/30/04 I replaced the Newspaper substrate for those 9 WC BPs with Wood Chip Mulch and Potting Soil from Home Depot. (Mixed about 2 parts mulch to 1 part potting soil) I tried to bury the hide in the back of the rack near the heat. (The hide is a plastic planter bottom from Wal-Mart with a hole cut in the side) I put the water dish in the front on the cool side. |
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Then I
hung a towel over the front of the rack over those tubs. I did that to cut off view
of people/movement outside of the rack and to cut down how much light was entering the
tubs. (The towel does not cut
out ALL light, just most of it) I
saw immediate results. |
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| Fem # 29 ~ 10/9/03 ~ 1033 Grams Fed on 5/3/04 Fed on 5/10/04 Fed on 5/17/04 Fed on 5/24/04 Fed on 5/31/04 Fed on 6/5/04 Fed on 6/12/04 Fed on 6/15/04 Fed on 6/20/04 6/24/04 ~ 1269 Grams(??) (Must have been full of Rat!) Fed on 6/26/04 Fed on 7-9-04 Fed on 7-31-04 Fed on 9-2-04 Fed on 9-10-04 9-15-05 ~ 1033 Grams Fed on 9-24-04 Fed on 9-29-04 |
Fem # 32 ~ 10/9/03 ~ 754 Grams Fed on 5/10/04 Fed on 5/17/04 Fed on 5/24/04 Fed on 6/16/04 6/24/04 ~ 631 Grams Fed on 6/26/04 Fed on 7-9-04 Fed on 7-16-04 Fed on 7-26-04 Fed on 7-31-04 Fed on 8-7-04 Fed on 8-18-04 Fed on 9-2-04 Fed on 9-10-04 9-15-05 ~ 712 Grams Fed on 9-17-04 Fed on 9-29-04 Fed on 10-5-04 |
Fem # 33 ~ 10/9/03 ~ 869 Grams Fed on 5/3/04 Fed on 5/10/04 Fed on 5/17/04 Fed on 5/24/04 Fed on 5/31/04 Fed on 6/6/04 Fed on 6/8/04 Fed on 6/12/04 Fed on 6/15/04 6/24/04 ~ 952 Grams Fed on 6/26/04 Fed on 7-9-04 Fed on 7-26-04 Fed on 7-31-04 Fed on 8-8-04 Fed on 8-16-04 Fed on 8-27-04 Fed on 9-10-04 9-15-05 ~ 971 Grams |
| Fem # 35 ~ 10/9/03 ~ 786 Grams Fed on 5/3/04 Fed on 5/10/04 Fed on 5/17/04 Fed on 5/24/04 Fed on 5/31/04 Fed on 6/5/04 Fed on 6/12/04 Fed on 6/15/04 6/24/04 ~ 735 Grams Fed on 6/26/04 Fed on 7-9-04 Fed on 7-20-04 Fed on 7-26-04 Fed on 8-6-04 Fed on 8-15-04 Fed on 8-18-04 Fed on 8-27-04 Fed on 9-10-04 9-15-05 ~ 961 Grams Fed on 9-24-04 Fed on 9-29-04 Fed on 10-5-04 |
Fem # 26 ~ 10/9/03 ~ 686 Grams Fed on 5/10/04 Fed on 5/17/04 Fed on 5/24/04 Fed on 5/31/04 Fed on 6/5/04 Fed on 6/12/04 Fed on 6/15/04 Fed on 6/20/04 6/24/04 ~ 870 Grams Fed on 6/26/04 Fed on 7-9-04 Fed on 7-20-04 Fed on 7-26-04 Fed on 7-31-04 Fed on 8-6-04 Fed on 8-15-04 Fed on 8-18-04 Fed on 8-27-04 Fed on 9-10-04 9-15-05 ~ 824 Grams Fed on 9-17-04 Fed on 9-24-04 Fed on 9-29-04 Fed on 10-5-04 |
Fem # 27 ~ 10/9/03 ~ 979 Grams Fed on 5/3/04 Fed on 5/10/04 Fed on 5/17/04 Fed on 5/24/04 Fed on 6/5/04 Fed on 6/12/04 Fed on 6/15/04 6/24/04 ~ 1107 Grams Fed on 6/26/04 Fed on 7-9-04 Fed on 9-2-04 Fed on 9-10-04 9-15-05 ~ 1003 Grams Fed on 9-17-04 Fed on 9-24-04 Fed on 10-5-04 |
| Fem # 34 ~ 10/9/03 ~ 890 Grams Fed on 5/17/04 Fed on 5/24/04 Fed on 5/31/04 Fed on 6/5/04 Fed on 6/12/04 Fed on 6/15/04 Fed on 6/20/04 6/24/04 ~ 924 Grams Fed on 8-18-04 Fed on 8-27-04 Fed on 9-10-04 9-15-05 ~ 814 Grams Fed on 9-17-04 Fed on 10-5-04 |
Fem # 36 ~ 10/9/03 ~ 875 Grams Fed on 5/3/04 Fed on 5/10/04 Fed on 5/17/04 Fed on 5/24/04 Fed on 5/31/04 Fed on 6/5/04 Fed on 6/12/04 6/24/04 ~ 797 Grams Fed on 8-15-04 Fed on 8018-04 Fed on 9-10-04 9-15-05 ~ 748 Grams Fed on 9-17-04 Fed on 10-5-04 |
Fem # 37 ~ 10/9/03 ~ 1089 Grams
She is getting very close to a year here without feeding. 6/24/04 ~ 925 Grams |
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plan to leave these girls on this substrate forever~ just until I have them feeding
regularly. ~Note~ I moved all of these girls onto shredded aspen over the summer. There were some feeding issues at that time~ but not much. A week with the towel covering replaced seemed to bring them back to feeding again. It is possible these girls would have begun feeding right now now matter what I did~ but I really think the sudden interest in feeding is due to the advice I received from Ralph Davis Reptiles. |
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This information was last updated on 4/2/10. I kind of forgot about this page and stopped keeping track after Oct 04. Fem 37 did eventually feed after being off feed for 15 months. When she began feeding she ate steadily with no problems. I sold all of these girls now. Some of them in 06 and they were all feeding great at the time. The rest I sold in 09 after having gotten a couple clutches from them and as strong feeders as well. Hope this was helpful for you! |
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